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Andy Gelston left a comment for Roy Reeves
"try https://skyvector.com/ and Google Maps satellite view."
Mar 15
Roy Reeves left a comment for Andy Gelston
"I agree, but did not know the statistic that 1 hour in a glider is better than 10 in a plane.  One of the things that draws me to the Porterfield is the lack of avionics.  As I have said, I loved my Cirrus, it was a great traveling plane,…"
Mar 15
Andy Gelston left a comment for Roy Reeves
"With an all wood wing, she needs to be hangared!  Have you checked at private airports/grass strips?  They may balk at spamcans, but may make room for an antique... Ask your CFI why a student pilot learns more about flying in one hour of…"
Mar 15
Roy Reeves left a comment for Andy Gelston
"Thanks for the info.  The one I am looking at (the one my daughter named "Olive" is the one in TJ Neff has.  Lucky for me, there is one for sale here in Texas - about 2 hours away but that is a lot closer than California.  I…"
Mar 15
Andy Gelston left a comment for Roy Reeves
"Size 42: no problem! TJ Neff has the one in Novato, CA. She's been on the market for quite a while.  The asking price seems a bit high, but with the spare, 0 SMOH Lycoming O-145, it's worth it, if it's been pickled and has good…"
Mar 14
Roy Reeves left a comment for Andy Gelston
"Thanks for the information.  I had noticed it is called "skinny bird" never really connected the dots.  There is or was one located about an hour from me, and you say one is in Bryan (as in Aggie-land"?)  I have a few…"
Mar 14
Andy Gelston left a comment for Roy Reeves
"Welcome to our wee club for the skinny birds, Roy!  If you are under 5' 10" and 180 pounds, you will fit well into a Collegiate cockpit. Solo is from the front seat only, and with the instrument panel a foot from your face, it seems a…"
Mar 14
Roy Reeves is now a member of Porterfield Airplane Club
Mar 14

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About Me:
Privileged daddy to the sweetest little girl who wants to learn to fly. I used to own 1/4 of a Cirrus (great traveler, but missions change). Looking to get back into aviation with my daughter and she is in love with a Porterfield - already gave it a name, so I need to learn as much as possible before biting the bullet.
Do you own a Porterfield Airplane?
Not yet, looking at two for sale right now. I like the one close to home, but my daughter likes one a long way from here - it is likely to be a two day cross country flight home.
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At 1:26pm on March 15, 2022, Andy Gelston said…

try https://skyvector.com/ and Google Maps satellite view.

At 11:34am on March 15, 2022, Andy Gelston said…

With an all wood wing, she needs to be hangared!  Have you checked at private airports/grass strips?  They may balk at spamcans, but may make room for an antique...

Ask your CFI why a student pilot learns more about flying in one hour of dual in a glider than he learns in ten hours of dual in a powered aircraft. This fact has been proven many times.  If he doesn't know why, he's too ignorant to be teaching your daughter, and anyone else.

Learn to fly first, then learn to fiddle with knobs and chat on the radio. Flying is the foundation she needs to establish before getting distracted and overwhelmed with the panel and communication.  She needs 20 hours of dual and 20 hours of solo to take her check ride.  She can fly 30 to 35 hours of the forty in the Collegiate, then take the checkride in a spamcan. 

Before she has her first lesson in a spamcan, she should sit in the cockpit for at least a couple of hours and become familiar with where everything is located and how it moves by running through all the checklists and putting her hands on everything she's checking.  Then when aloft, she won't be wasting time looking for where things are when she should be focusing on learning how the plane handles.

At 4:02pm on March 14, 2022, Andy Gelston said…

Size 42: no problem!

TJ Neff has the one in Novato, CA. She's been on the market for quite a while.  The asking price seems a bit high, but with the spare, 0 SMOH Lycoming O-145, it's worth it, if it's been pickled and has good documentation.  I have no idea how he was planning to install a starter on an O-145 in a Collegiate, and to me, it's unnecessary weight.  The O-145 is anemic enough without adding weight to it and they readily start by hand if you prime them right.

Tom Porterfield, the president of this club, lives at the airport in Abernathy, and has a Collegiate with the fabric stripped off. 

Pat Cole's Dad's Collegiate is covered but needs a prop. Yes Bryan is a College town, but I'd forgotten it was Aggieville.

There are several club members in the Lone Star State, but I don't know which ones have flyable Collegiates. Tom may know...

Whoever made wheelpants for Taylorcraft, also made them for Porterfield, as they both came with Shinn wheels & brakes.

Judt Birchler is a club member. She started ladieslovetaildraggers.com and used to fly a '40 Collegiate, so she could tell your daughter what it's like, until she can get into one herself.

At 10:15am on March 14, 2022, Andy Gelston said…

Welcome to our wee club for the skinny birds, Roy! 

If you are under 5' 10" and 180 pounds, you will fit well into a Collegiate cockpit. Solo is from the front seat only, and with the instrument panel a foot from your face, it seems a bit claustrophobic, but you get acclimated to it by the time you've taxied to the end of the active.

The Collegiate is a great trainer, provided you have a CFI who knows how to fly conventional gear aircraft. I know many pilots who started out in Collegiates and have special places in their hearts for them.

There's plenty of info in the forum and blogs sections. There's a Collegiate in Bryan for sale. A man named Pat Cole, with a motorcycle shop, is trying to find a new home for his late Dad's CP-50, but I have no idea what he wants for her. She probably needs a bit of TLC to get aloft.

Soft landings,

Andy

 
 
 

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