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Andy Gelston
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  • Grantham, NH
  • United States

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Another Collegiate for sale (Barnstormers)

1939 PORTERFIELD CP65 PROJECT • $5,500 • FOR SALE • Log Books start 1959. All metal parts…Continue

Started Apr 9

Roger Allen’s Collegiate is still for sale...

As seen on Barnstormers.com:PORTERFIELD CP65 • AVAILABLE • 1941 Porterfield cp65 • Contact…Continue

Started Mar 13

Scammer Alert!

We had a new member (I just deleted him) named "James" from "uae" claiming to be a partner in an early Collegiate and learning to fly in it. Five days ago, he sent a message to one of our members…Continue

Started Feb 23

FP-65 engine mount wanted

PORTERFIELD FP-65 ENGINE MOUNT • WANTED TO BUY • Franklin motor mount for a Porterfield…Continue

Started Jan 2

 

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Andy Gelston replied to Jerry Deanda's discussion CP65 Pilot Manual?
"Vne is 138mph (120 kts), according to the TCDS (https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/9abbeb55075f0e57862581130065542e/$FILE/A-720_Rev_5.pdf). Every plane's speeds will vary, as over the last eight decades, who…"
Apr 25
Andy Gelston left a comment for Scott Boelman
"Welcome to our wee club for the skinny birds, Scott!  You'll find there are some members here in the Chino area who can help you with your restoration. We also have quite a bit of info strewn about in the Forum and Blog sections, and many…"
Apr 25
Andy Gelston replied to Jerry Deanda's discussion CP65 Pilot Manual?
"Nope! There's never really been a "factory" AFM nor POH for the Collegiate.  There is a factory manual that discusses rigging and other aspects of the Collegiate.  Does anybody have a digital version of it that can be…"
Apr 19
Andy Gelston posted a discussion

Another Collegiate for sale (Barnstormers)

1939 PORTERFIELD CP65 PROJECT • $5,500 • FOR SALE • Log Books start 1959. All metal parts inspected sandblasted and powder coated Needs wings rebuilt. • Contact Bob Hayden - ANTIQUE AERO PLANE FOUNDATION , Owner - located Placentia, CA United…See More
Apr 9
Andy Gelston left a comment for Kenneth Biro
"Barnstormers is a pretty good website for finding a new home for your Champ. Don't bother adding photos, just write "EMAIL 4 pix & info" in the description and keep the description <100 characters, and the add is free. Take…"
Apr 9
Kenneth Biro left a comment for Andy Gelston
"Thank you Andy we'll sure do that. We have a 1946 Aeronca Champ for sale with an 0-200 conversion If you know anyone that might be interested. We should have the annual done sometime within the next couple of months."
Apr 9
Andy Gelston left a comment for Kenneth Biro
"I wish you and Dennis well in your quest for a Flyabout.  Check old Forum posts to see if there are any projects that you can follow up on to see if they might be available."
Apr 9
Andy Gelston commented on Steve Ahrens's video
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My First Annual Service On The Porterfield

"Thank you, Steve!  She's lovely."
Mar 31
Andy Gelston left a comment for Roy Reeves
"try https://skyvector.com/ and Google Maps satellite view."
Mar 15
Roy Reeves left a comment for Andy Gelston
"I agree, but did not know the statistic that 1 hour in a glider is better than 10 in a plane.  One of the things that draws me to the Porterfield is the lack of avionics.  As I have said, I loved my Cirrus, it was a great traveling plane,…"
Mar 15
Andy Gelston left a comment for Roy Reeves
"With an all wood wing, she needs to be hangared!  Have you checked at private airports/grass strips?  They may balk at spamcans, but may make room for an antique... Ask your CFI why a student pilot learns more about flying in one hour of…"
Mar 15
Andy Gelston replied to Mark's discussion Continental A65 .020 crankshaft main bearings.
"Here’s a link to ASS’s STC: https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgSTC.nsf/0/0009d24fe9baa6ce8625714900661bc5/$FILE/SE09002SC.pdf Looking up the part numbers on the ASS website, they don’t list them.   They were…"
Mar 15
Roy Reeves left a comment for Andy Gelston
"Thanks for the info.  The one I am looking at (the one my daughter named "Olive" is the one in TJ Neff has.  Lucky for me, there is one for sale here in Texas - about 2 hours away but that is a lot closer than California.  I…"
Mar 15
Andy Gelston left a comment for Roy Reeves
"Size 42: no problem! TJ Neff has the one in Novato, CA. She's been on the market for quite a while.  The asking price seems a bit high, but with the spare, 0 SMOH Lycoming O-145, it's worth it, if it's been pickled and has good…"
Mar 14
Roy Reeves left a comment for Andy Gelston
"Thanks for the information.  I had noticed it is called "skinny bird" never really connected the dots.  There is or was one located about an hour from me, and you say one is in Bryan (as in Aggie-land"?)  I have a few…"
Mar 14
Andy Gelston left a comment for Roy Reeves
"Welcome to our wee club for the skinny birds, Roy!  If you are under 5' 10" and 180 pounds, you will fit well into a Collegiate cockpit. Solo is from the front seat only, and with the instrument panel a foot from your face, it seems a…"
Mar 14

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Do you own a Porterfield Airplane?
NC41VT, 1941 FP-65, S/N 875 Has a Franklin 90 installed by Angelo Forte, under a one-time STC, in the mid-50's, and has had the seaplane conversion done to it (would that make it a FS-90?). I just need a cheap set of Edo 1320's now!
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NC41VT and I are now back home in Vermont! How we got here...

I'm sitting in KMHT, writing this while waiting for my flight which should be wheels up in about 10 hours.  I fly to Newark, then to Seattle, then to Great Falls, and should be wheels down at KHLN about midnight (about 31 hours from now).  Hey, I live in New England!  We can't get anywhere from here!  41VT is at Boulder (K3U9) Airport, about 25 miles south of Helena, MT.  I'll buy a used bike  Wednesday morning (I hope), and pedal on down to Boulder to start prepping myself and 41VT for our…

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Posted on October 14, 2013 at 6:30am — 1 Comment

Ad for NC41VT, a FP-65 converted to a FS-90

DESCRIPTION: NC41VT is a 1941 FP-65, S/N 875, with an STC’d Franklin 90 installation, completed by Angelo Forte in the mid-50’s, turning a Flottorp wood prop.  She has fresh Polyfiber covering and finish with the factory red and silver color scheme (ball with 2 stripes on each side).  Medium weight fabric was used throughout, with heavy weight fabric used on the belly and lower surfaces of the horizontal stabilizers and elevators.  The instrument panel is the deluxe version, made to…

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Posted on July 23, 2013 at 9:30pm

Update on my '41 FP-65 project

After tinkering for over three years on my Collegiate, the novelty finally wore off for Pokey Gordon and he asked me to remove the old girl from his shop in Helena, MT.  Club member Tim Talen, who has a hangar in Boulder, MT, about 30 miles south of Helena, came to the rescue and arranged for a Boulder friend of his to rent a truck and haul the project to his hangar. 

Tim's is a master restorer who specializes in Interstate Aircraft.  I restored an Interstate Cadet back in the 80's…

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Posted on April 12, 2013 at 1:00pm — 4 Comments

Seen on Barnstormers: 1940 PORTERFIELD CP-65 for $25K

FOR SALE • 1940 PORTERFIELD CP-65 Collegiate $25,000 LSA Qualified. First Collegiate 499.9 SMOH. 5519.1 TT. Hangered since restoration in 1967. Flying Airplane. All logs Books available on PDF. Current annual good to 01/31/2014. Located at AJO. Corona municipal airport, CA USA. Telephone: Contact Eric 951-247-9541 • Contact…

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Posted on March 3, 2013 at 1:10pm — 1 Comment

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At 2:41pm on April 9, 2022, Kenneth Biro said…

Thank you Andy we'll sure do that. We have a 1946 Aeronca Champ for sale with an 0-200 conversion If you know anyone that might be interested. We should have the annual done sometime within the next couple of months.

At 12:55pm on March 15, 2022, Roy Reeves said…

I agree, but did not know the statistic that 1 hour in a glider is better than 10 in a plane.  One of the things that draws me to the Porterfield is the lack of avionics.  As I have said, I loved my Cirrus, it was a great traveling plane, but it is designed to be "managed" not flown.  

I will look for private runway with hanger, had not thought about that as an option - though I don't know where one is around here.  Time to buy a sectional and start making calls I guess.

At 9:38am on March 15, 2022, Roy Reeves said…

Thanks for the info.  The one I am looking at (the one my daughter named "Olive" is the one in TJ Neff has.  Lucky for me, there is one for sale here in Texas - about 2 hours away but that is a lot closer than California.  I can at least get inside one and see if she fits.  My biggest problem, as I just discovered, is hanger space.  I have checked every airport in 40 miles and no one has hanger (not even patio) for rent.  I don't think a tube and fabric plane would hold up outside in Texas.

A CFI I know is also throwing a little ice water on the idea - I get that it does not have Artificial Horizon, VOR, etc.  So?  She can "learn to fly" not "manage" a plane.  My only complaint about the Cirrus I used to own - great traveling plane but it was built for a programer/manager, not a pilot.  

Then I do understand, if my daughter learns to fly by the seat of her pants, she may have trouble transitioning later since avionics are getting more and more complicated and more "legacy" planes are going partial glass.

At 11:32am on March 14, 2022, Roy Reeves said…

Thanks for the information.  I had noticed it is called "skinny bird" never really connected the dots.  There is or was one located about an hour from me, and you say one is in Bryan (as in Aggie-land"?)  I have a few friends who spent 4 years on the wrong side of the river (Sic Em' Bears) but it would be nice to have two Skinny Birds close to me to look into.  

I am only 5'10 and my daughter is shorter than me - but how important is that 180 # thing?  I  wear a 42 jacket, will I feel like I am shoulder to shoulder with the wings?

And it is no secret here, there is a Porterfield in CA that is kinda pretty and it has been available for at least a few months.  Any members here been by to look at it.  Spare engine certainly has my attention - love spare parts - but my daughter named it "Olive" already so I need to get her up close and personal with one of the Skinny Birds here in Texas (anyone in or near TKI willing to take her up for a short ride, I buy gas and lunch afterwards - and all she needs is a quick hop around the patch, no stick time).  Need to see if she still likes the idea after being inside a skinny bird.

Last - wheel pants???  Two that I know of, still need to look at the third, have no pants.  I have seen references to Taylorcraft wheel pants, but have not had time (or the admission to the club) to go searching and since I am writing my first post . . . I am hoping for forgiveness if this is one of those times when I should "look for the search bar".

At 9:21am on March 4, 2022, Bryan Hunt said…

Thanks for the welcome Andy!

I'm close to the 180 (that I can influence)... but have +2" on the height being 6'..  would I not fit at that height?

Bryan

At 10:21am on March 3, 2022, James H Replogle said…

I have been looking to buy a porterfield for some time now. I am interested in a 35W if I can find one for sale. The owners of these models don't seem to want to part with them which is very understandable. I'll keep an eye out anyway.

At 10:21pm on November 18, 2021, Tim Berridge said…
Thanks Andy!
I was struck by the beauty of the design.
Glad to be here.
At 5:38pm on August 26, 2021, Luke Lebrecht said…

Howdy hey thanks for the welcome! He talked about the Porterfield Club ALOT! He truly loved it. Unfortunately about a week ago he had a massive stroke and his time is nearing an end. I hope the Army approves my leave so I can go see him one last time. I look forward to seeing everyone's posts on here and learn a thing or two! Im glad he opened my eyes to aviation (Im normally a car guy) and maybe one day Ill be up in the air too.

At 11:22am on July 24, 2021, Dan Roose said…

Hi Andy,

Thanks for letting me join you all. Looking forward to finding an aircraft at some point, a Flyable one first with a project a little later. 

At 9:29am on May 3, 2021, Steve Ahrens said…

Thank you for the warm welcome Andy. I’m looking forward to doing my tail wheel endorsement with my new bird!

 
 
 

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