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The 65 hp Collegiate series turns 80 this year.
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ATC 720 was issued in 1940.  Would any of us with flyable 65 hp Collegiates want to get together for a mass flyin to the EAA convention in Oshkosh this year?  If there’s enough genuine interest, I’ll…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jason Algra Feb 15.

Starter on a Collegiate?

I saw member TJ Neff’s ad for his ‘41 LP-65 and he mentioned for $2500, he’d install a starter on her (after you bought the plane and her spare Lycoming O-145 for $24,900)...Which starter would you…Continue

Started Jan 30

One for sale on facebook
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I have a life, so I don’t do facebook, thus I don’t know how to contact…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Andy Gelston Sep 29, 2019.

Flying LP-65 in Texas for sale

1940 PORTERFIELD • $22,900 • FOR SALE • July 9th, 1940, NC25591 began flying and still continues today with over…Continue

Started Sep 16, 2019

 

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Jason Algra replied to Andy Gelston's discussion The 65 hp Collegiate series turns 80 this year.
"That would be Awesome! I live in Oshkosh and have been to Airventure the past 14 years. I have only seen 2 different Porterfields at Airventure in the past 14 years. I may have missed a few but they are a rarity at Airventure. What would be really…"
Feb 15
Andy Gelston posted a discussion

The 65 hp Collegiate series turns 80 this year.

ATC 720 was issued in 1940.  Would any of us with flyable 65 hp Collegiates want to get together for a mass flyin to the EAA convention in Oshkosh this year?  If there’s enough genuine interest, I’ll contact the Red Barn folks at EAA about getting a special parking spot in the Vintage area, but I’ll need a tail wheel count.  I don’t think we’ll have 80 Collegiates for the 80 year anniversary, but 18 would be nice...AndySee More
Feb 12
Andy Gelston left a comment for Cecil Yates
"Welcome to our wee club for the skinny birds, Cecil!  There’s lot of info archived in the forum & blogs, and we look forward to reading your contributions, too."
Feb 9
Andy Gelston left a comment for John E. McCarty
"Hi John: Do you still have your Collegiate project?  How is she progressing?  Please advise... Soft landings, Andy"
Feb 4
Andy Gelston replied to Mark's discussion Shoulder harness
"Try going to your local library and see if they come up on one of their computers...or I could email them directly to you."
Feb 2
Andy Gelston replied to Mark's discussion Shoulder harness
" stowing the front; attachment to the V’s (zoom in, if you need to); belt tag w/part #"
Feb 1
Andy Gelston replied to Mark's discussion Shoulder harness
"Front seat installation"
Feb 1
Andy Gelston replied to Mark's discussion Shoulder harness
"Rear seat installation"
Feb 1
Andy Gelston commented on kevin feauto's blog post N37716 Begins her restoration
"All the mods are listed in the Type Certificate Data Sheets.  The rear spars get doublers, some of the inboard compression struts have larger cross sections/heavier wall tube, and the inboard drag/anti-drag wires are 3/16” diameter...and…"
Jan 30
Andy Gelston commented on kevin feauto's blog post N37716 Begins her restoration
"Thank you for sharing this with us, Kevin!  Yes, John is a very generous man.  He was an enormous help to me when I was installing the seaplane conversion on 41VT.  I was on the fence about buying this plane from John and his son, and…"
Jan 30
Andy Gelston posted a discussion

Starter on a Collegiate?

I saw member TJ Neff’s ad for his ‘41 LP-65 and he mentioned for $2500, he’d install a starter on her (after you bought the plane and her spare Lycoming O-145 for $24,900)...Which starter would you install, TJ?  Please share with us this info as many of us have survived into geezerhood and may be greatly interested in installing starters on their Collegiates.Here’s a link to TJ’s ad on Controller: …See More
Jan 30
Andy Gelston replied to Mark's discussion Shoulder harness
"A FAA memo went out about 2004 with regards to shoulder harness installations: if they follow best practices, they don’t need an STC.  Whether you pay extra for the TSO’d harness or just get what’s on special at WagAero, is up…"
Jan 29
Andy Gelston replied to Mark's discussion Any Washington State Skinny Birds?
"You’re welcome, Mark!  Thank you for keeping your skinny bird flying, and hopefully inspiring others to get their old gals in the air, too."
Jan 1
Andy Gelston replied to Bill's discussion Wing Tanks
"How/where did you locate the FAA records for Glen’s Collegiate, or did you order the $10 CD for her?"
Dec 31, 2019
Andy Gelston commented on john elliott's blog post For Sale Lycoming 65 plus mount
"Were either of you able to get any support from Brad Rankin with the C85 install, or are you going through individual field approvals?  Joe Rankin’s Collegiate has a C85, but he never added the engine to the TC, which is a shame, but Brad…"
Dec 31, 2019
Andy Gelston commented on Bill's blog post Porterfield on barnstormers
"Both Roger and TJ are fellow club members..."
Dec 12, 2019

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NC41VT, 1941 FP-65, S/N 875 Has a Franklin 90 installed by Angelo Forte, under a one-time STC, in the mid-50's, and has had the seaplane conversion done to it (would that make it a FS-90?). I just need a cheap set of Edo 1320's now!
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NC41VT and I are now back home in Vermont! How we got here...

I'm sitting in KMHT, writing this while waiting for my flight which should be wheels up in about 10 hours.  I fly to Newark, then to Seattle, then to Great Falls, and should be wheels down at KHLN about midnight (about 31 hours from now).  Hey, I live in New England!  We can't get anywhere from here!  41VT is at Boulder (K3U9) Airport, about 25 miles south of Helena, MT.  I'll buy a used bike  Wednesday morning (I hope), and pedal on down to Boulder to start prepping myself and 41VT for our…

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Posted on October 14, 2013 at 6:30am — 1 Comment

Ad for NC41VT, a FP-65 converted to a FS-90

DESCRIPTION: NC41VT is a 1941 FP-65, S/N 875, with an STC’d Franklin 90 installation, completed by Angelo Forte in the mid-50’s, turning a Flottorp wood prop.  She has fresh Polyfiber covering and finish with the factory red and silver color scheme (ball with 2 stripes on each side).  Medium weight fabric was used throughout, with heavy weight fabric used on the belly and lower surfaces of the horizontal stabilizers and elevators.  The instrument panel is the deluxe version, made to…

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Posted on July 23, 2013 at 9:30pm

Update on my '41 FP-65 project

After tinkering for over three years on my Collegiate, the novelty finally wore off for Pokey Gordon and he asked me to remove the old girl from his shop in Helena, MT.  Club member Tim Talen, who has a hangar in Boulder, MT, about 30 miles south of Helena, came to the rescue and arranged for a Boulder friend of his to rent a truck and haul the project to his hangar. 

Tim's is a master restorer who specializes in Interstate Aircraft.  I restored an Interstate Cadet back in the 80's…

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Posted on April 12, 2013 at 1:00pm — 4 Comments

Seen on Barnstormers: 1940 PORTERFIELD CP-65 for $25K

FOR SALE • 1940 PORTERFIELD CP-65 Collegiate $25,000 LSA Qualified. First Collegiate 499.9 SMOH. 5519.1 TT. Hangered since restoration in 1967. Flying Airplane. All logs Books available on PDF. Current annual good to 01/31/2014. Located at AJO. Corona municipal airport, CA USA. Telephone: Contact Eric 951-247-9541 • Contact…

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Posted on March 3, 2013 at 1:10pm — 1 Comment

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At 9:01pm on September 30, 2019, Harry Taggart said…

That Porterfield for sale in Kansas is in a Facebook Airplanes For Sale Group. Doing research on it is what led me to your group. I won't be able to act on anything until Spring at the earliest. Looks like a sweet plane at a good price though.

Small world about the Starlite for sure! I didn't berlong to the Yahoo group. There was another Starlite owner about 40 miles away from me and we always got together at fly-ins around Tennessee. I was not the original builder of mine. I acquired it from a guy who bought it from the builder (who was afraid to fly it) and then promptly ground looped it, collapsing the gear, which drove a wheel through the right wing and hit a runway light with the left wing leading edge.  You, of course, know how close coupled the controls were and you just cannot get heavy handed or heavy footed with a Starlite on the ground. I traded a 1980 Cadillac Eldorado for it, put it back together and had a ball flying it. As you know, Starlites always draw a crowd wherever they go. I took it to Sun 'N Fun twice and eventually sold it to get the Champ.

As for the Starduster, I did not build that one either. The turtledeck (aka 'storage area') was fiberglass. It was a dream to fly and one of the best landing taildraggers I ever flew. But I outgrew it (weight-wise) too quickly.  At 210# I could barely get my hips in and out of the cockpit opening and a parachute was definitely out of the question. My lifelong dream was to own and fly a Stearman. The Starduster was as close as I ever got. No matter. It always put a smile on my face.

I'm looking forward to learning more about the Porterfield from you and your members. Thanks again for adding me.

At 8:08pm on September 30, 2019, Harry Taggart said…

Thanks for the welcome, Andy. I'm more interested in a flight worthy A/C rather than rebuilding. Just looking for now. My center of gravity has "shifted" significantly since my days with the Starlite and Starduster.  I'm 5'10 but close to 250#. I can handle close quarters at the controls. Just concerned about CG problems at this weight. The Porterfield caught my eye due to its close appearance to my Aeronca. This is the first I've ever heard of a Porterfield.

At 9:50pm on September 11, 2019, Luigi Ricci Moretti said…

The Fleet is a Model 7B, N174RS. 

Thanks for the add. 

Luigi

At 11:58am on August 26, 2019, Richard Nelson said…

At 9:41am on August 26, 2019, Richard Nelson said…

Hello Andy

We just found a couple old planes in the backwoods of Louisiana( a 42 PT26 and a Porterfield. They have been taken apart and stored in various sheds, barns and old cars. I found the serial id tag in the back of a 59 Edsel wagon, the wings stored in the rafters of an old barn... Still searching the jungle for the rest of it( engine ,cowl etc) 

I need help to id which plane i have. The wheels are dated 1937, id tag 36-70, august 1938, serial # 337

Will post pics soon. 

Thanks Dick Nelson

At 3:41am on August 13, 2019, Al WARD said…

Hi Andy thanx for the reply note... funnily enough I knew Doug Sales quite well in the mid to late 60's as we used to hang out together And have been to many of the Hot air ballon shows in Hamilton.. but on another matter on the 2nd page of the groups photos there are  4 pix of 3 Porterfieds labelled Red White & Blue.You wouldnt have the "N" number of the lite blue (taking off) one would you as thats the color I have used on the model I am building!! If you know it  I will put it on my model......Thanx a lot...Regards Al Wqrd..NZ

At 1:54pm on August 5, 2019, Bo case said…

Hello Andy.   The skinny bird I just acquired is a CP-65,  very good shape but hasn't flown since 09.  Lewis Mitchell owned this aircraft for many years here in TX. Lewis is a WWll vet and retired from a flying job with the FAA.  He is 95 now.  I've been running this plane off and on for him for the last 3 years and will fly it soon.  I'll send pics. bo case rhome tx

At 4:34pm on April 18, 2019, kevin feauto said…

Thank you for the add Andy. I have recently acquired NC37716 which suffered a nose over accident. Last week I returned from Aberdeen SD where it was to St. Could Fl , where I now live. I have approx 650 hrs in my old aircraft Nc25563 ser # 641. I sold it years ago for the equity I needed for a bigger plane for a growing family. I have always have fond memories for my old airplane. I bought 255623 as a rolled over basket case , built it and learned to fly in her. I now have her sister!. NC37716 left the factory as a land or sea plane. It has EXTENSIVE documentation. I Spoke with a prior owner , James Gooding, last evening and he is ecstatic she will fly again. Ill keep you all updated on her progress as i intend to commence work on her in late summer. In the mean time, I need a copy of the fuselage drawings so I may facilitate repair of some broken and or kinked structure. Can anyone help me out? ALSO. I have LOTS of rubber biscuit shock absorbers should anyone need any. Feel free to contact me at clearprop75r@hotmail.com. 

At 10:23pm on February 24, 2019, Matt Haines said…

Hi Andy, I just purchased one of these gals out of Sonoma Valley airport #816.  I haven't brought it back to Oregon just yet but I plan on visiting this site frequently and keeping up with you guys.  I will certainly share the fun stuff when it comes along! Thanks for keeping this up.

At 4:53pm on February 21, 2019, Marian Madalin said…

Thank you for your encouraging thoughts , Andy. Unfortunately, I am just a nonprofit who wants to open a free and public museum in my country. So I'm not looking for something to buy, I'm looking for a donation/sponsorship of an old frame. 

 
 
 

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